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		<title>Painterly? No, thanks!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many viewers say &#8220;oh, such a painterly photograph&#8221; when they like a photo you show to them. They mean that in the sincerest way and to compliment the photographer on his or her achievement when they say &#8220;it looks like a painting.&#8221; This unnecessary, unsuitable accolade has been attached to photography since its beginning. When [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many viewers say &#8220;oh, such a painterly photograph&#8221; when they like a photo you show to them. They mean that in the sincerest way and to compliment the photographer on his or her achievement when they say &#8220;it looks like a painting.&#8221; This unnecessary, unsuitable accolade has been attached to photography since its beginning. When Talbot, Daguerre, Niépce created their first images, people saw them as &#8220;nature&#8217;s pencil&#8221; and photography as an extension of painting. Going back further provides a stronger link between creating an optical image and painting as painters used a device, camera obscura, to aid them in creating their art.</p>
<div id="attachment_701" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.keptlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/horses-before-stand.jpg"  rel="shadowbox[Painterly]" title="Horses Before Stand - Degas"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-701" title="Horses Before Stand - Degas" src="http://www.keptlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/horses-before-stand-150x150.jpg" alt="Horses Before Stand - Degas" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cut off Figure</p></div>
<p>Although it might have been somewhat understandable in the early days and years of photography, this perception of seeing photography as an extension of painting, and a second class one at that, is no longer justified in my view, and viewers need to be disabused of this notion to fully appreciate photography. Let us not forget, photography also influenced painting in profound ways, a fact that does not make anyone to utter &#8220;oh, what a <em>photographerly </em>painting&#8221; when they see Degas&#8217; horses or dancers. Yes, he was indeed influenced by photography like many other painters. After photographic examination established once and for all, for instance, that all four legs of a horse are off the ground at some point when they run, but never at a point where they are stretched all the way back and front like all the paintings depicted them until then. Degas painted his horses accurately and also some parts of their bodies outside his paintings just as a photograph may do due to framing. His dancers were depicted not only in performance, but often getting ready for it in not necessarily flattering ways. After all, if photography could capture life as it unfolded, why could painting not, and still be painting.</p>
<div id="attachment_700" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.keptlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nude_no2.jpg" rel="shadowbox[Painterly]" title="Nude Descending a Staircase - Duchamp"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-700" title="Nude Descending a Staircase - Duchamp" src="http://www.keptlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nude_no2-150x150.jpg" alt="Nude Descending a Staircase - Duchamp" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Nude Descending a Staircase - Duchamp</p></div>
<p>Another example is Marcelle Duchamp&#8217;s <em>Nude Descending a Staircase</em>, as if photographed under a stroboscope, a style unheard of until the invention of photography. One medium influencing another is nothing new but this does not make one an extension of the other.</p>
<div id="attachment_699" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.keptlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Holbein-ambassadors.jpg" rel="shadowbox[Painterly]" title="Holbein - Ambassadors"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-699" title="Holbein - Ambassadors" src="http://www.keptlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Holbein-ambassadors-150x150.jpg" alt="Holbein - Ambassadors" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Multiple perspecitves hide a skull at the bottom</p></div>
<p>Photography has unique qualities and should be viewed with these in mind. Painters never felt obliged to put a frame around the frameless world or to see the world from a single vantage point. They organized everything neatly within the borders of their canvas and sometimes even twisted the perspective of different elements in their paintings. Holbein&#8217;s Ambassadors is the prototypical example of multiple perspectives and a hidden image due to extreme distortion on one of these planes. These are not inherent characteristics of photography, camera points, establishes a vantage point and frames the photograph. Everything fits into this perspective and some parts of the world are cut or cut out. Photographs are &#8220;selected&#8221; after an analysis of the environment where paintings are synthesized to reflect the mental image in the mind of the painter. Examples abound.</p>
<p>Regrettably, this view of photography as an extension of painting is adopted, even aspired to by many photographers. They revel in the notion that their camera and photographic technique can produce something &#8220;approaching painting.&#8221; I believe the growth of one&#8217;s vision in any art form depends on understanding the qualities of the medium one uses. Now, I am not suggesting that photography cannot be impressionistic, expressionistic, realistic, romantic, pictorialist, etc. Any photographer may produce a body of photographic work that will fit those styles without being compared to painting. Studies of motion and its effects on photography can result in very interesting photographs. However, this techniques carried to the extreme in the line of creating something like a Rothko painting is merely &#8220;brush envy.&#8221; Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not trying to impose a particular view on anyone&#8217;s art. I am merely defending the art of photography as a self sufficient form not needing the crutches of brushes and stretched canvas.</p>
<p>Some may argue the point by using the example of super-realistic paintings that can easily be mistaken for a photograph. I would like to point out the name used for this style, &#8220;super-realistic <em>painting</em>&#8221; which defines it in the domain of the medium rather than calling it &#8220;<em>photographerly </em>painting&#8221; and extending it to the domain of photography.</p>
<p>Photography as an art form can stand on its own two feet, and very well. Look at the history of photography, see the works of Adams, Weston, Steiglitz, Evans, Sander, Bourke-White, Lange, Hine, Cartier-Bresson, Cunningham, Callahan, Siskind, Shore, Eggleston, DeCarava, Meyerowitz, and many more. Also, acquaint the mind with the writings and works of Szarkowski, Sontag, Robert Adams; enjoy the works of the above and other legendary photographers. Then, leave the crutches of canvas and brush, learn the medium, use it, and enjoy it. Capabilities of the medium are very broad and with the advent of digital photography they can be extended even more within the scope of photography and photographic art. Forget about <em>brush envy</em>.</p>
<p>And, please, don&#8217;t flatter me by saying how painterly my photographs are, or they look like paintings. They are photographs; I am a photographer, not a frustrated painter.</p>
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		<title>Photography Critiques</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to explore the idea of a critique and how to stimulate reflection and critical viewing of photographs. The necessary ingredients of a well stated critique are reflection, critical viewing, knowledge of the matter in hand, and ability to communicate. Would it be proper to say that &#8220;opinions are democratic, critiques are elitist.&#8221; [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to explore the idea of a critique and how to stimulate reflection and critical viewing of photographs. The necessary ingredients of a well stated critique are reflection, critical viewing, knowledge of the matter in hand, and ability to communicate. Would it be proper to say that &#8220;opinions are democratic, critiques are elitist.&#8221; Now, some may take issue with my choice of words, like &#8220;elitist&#8221; but that is part of the reason I am writing this anyway. Allow me to elaborate.</p>
<p>I want to emphasize the point that although everyone can pass their opinion, not everyone has the necessary ingredients to offer criticism. That&#8217;s why I think that opinions are democratic, everyone has them and entitled to their opinions. Where critiques, well thought out critiques, are elitist in the sense that people with the necessary knowledge, insight, and skill in articulating their thoughts succeed in providing useful critiques. These skills, at least up to a point, can be developed by anyone.</p>
<p>From this, I also reach another conclusion that not all statements about a photograph is a valuable critique of the work. It would be interesting to start talking about &#8220;the elements of composition&#8221; to see if we have a reasonably good and at least similar understanding of this often used word. I read on many a photography site comments that say &#8220;the work is excellent compositionally&#8221; and I sometimes wonder if we use the word to mean the same thing. There may be those who have studied these concepts formally. They could make a significant contribution by sharing their knowledge about the subject with all of us.</p>
<p>I also think that a single photograph is difficult to critique. A photographer&#8217;s work cannot be distilled into one photograph. I would like us to think of ways to critique a group of photographs that a photographer presents. This is where our gallery site may help where members can organize group of photographs for others to critique, no sugar coating, no formula statements, honest, frank and insightful comments and critiques that will talk about what works, what does not, and include the &#8220;why.&#8221;</p>
<p>Penny for your thoughts!</p>
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